In this episode I talk to gay dad Frank Emanuele and dear friend Angela Pickering-Peeters, who not only acted as the gestational carrier for Luca, Frank’s two-year-old son with husband Norm, but who’s now expecting Frank and Norm’s second baby. We talk about their unique relationship, how Angela’s four kids have reacted to all this “baby growing” business, and the nosy questions people ask when you’re carrying someone else’s child.